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[Unedited] Brother David Steindl-Rast with Krista Tippett
James Reid
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<p>We’re in a season of renewal in the natural world and in spiritual traditions; both Easter and Passover this year are utterly transformed. It’s drawing us back to the wisdom of Br. David Steindl-Rast, who makes useful distinctions around experiences that are life-giving and resilience-making yet can feel absurd to speak of in a moment like this. A Benedictine monk for over 60 years, Steindl-Rast was formed by 20th-century catastrophes. He calls joy “the happiness that doesn’t depend on what happens.” And his gratefulness is not an easy gratitude or thanksgiving — but a full-blooded, reality-based practice and choice.</p><p>Br. David Steindl-Rast is a Benedictine monk and a beloved teacher and author on the subject of gratitude. He’s the founder and senior advisor for A Network for Grateful Living. His books include <i>Gratefulness, The Heart of Prayer: An Approach to Life in Fullness</i>, <i>A Listening Heart</i>, and an autobiography, <i>i am through you so i</i>.</p><p>This show originally aired in January 2016.</p><p>This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode "David Steindl-Rast — How to Be Grateful in Every Moment (But Not for Everything)." Find more at <a href="https://onbeing.org/programs/david-steindl-rast-how-to-be-grateful-in-every-moment">onbeing.org</a>.</p>
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[Unedited] Brother David Steindl-Rast with Krista Tippett
James Reid