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[Unedited] Arlie Hochschild with Krista Tippett
James Reid
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<p>After Arlie Hochschild published her book <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/10066/9781620973493"><i>Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right</i></a>, just before the 2016 election, it came to feel prescient. And the conversation Krista had with her in 2018 has now come to point straight to the heart of 2020 — a year in which many of us might say we feel like strangers in our own land and in our own world. Hochschild created a field within sociology looking at the social impact of emotion. She explains how our stories and truths — what we try to debate as issues in our social and political lives — are <i>felt</i>, not merely factual. And she shares why, as a matter of pragmatism, we have to take emotion seriously and do what feels unnatural: get curious and caring about the other side.</p><p>Arlie Hochschild is professor emerita in the sociology department at the University of California, Berkeley. She is the author of ten books including <a href="https://bookshop.org/books/the-managed-heart-commercialization-of-human-feeling-9780520272941/9780520272941"><i>The Managed Heart</i></a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/books/the-second-shift-working-families-and-the-revolution-at-home/9780143120339"><i>The Second Shift</i></a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/books/strangers-in-their-own-land-anger-and-mourning-on-the-american-right/9781620973493"><i>Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right</i></a>, a finalist for the National Book Award.</p><p>This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode "Arlie Hochschild — The Deep Stories of Our Time." Find the transcript for that show at <a href="https://onbeing.org/programs/arlie-hochschild-the-deep-stories-of-our-time/#transcript">onbeing.org</a>.</p>
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[Unedited] Arlie Hochschild with Krista Tippett
James Reid