[Unedited] Alain de Botton with Krista Tippett

<p>As people, and as a culture, Alain de Botton says, we would be much saner and happier if we reexamined our very view of love. His <i>New York Times</i> essay, “Why You Will Marry the Wrong Person,” is one of their most-read articles in recent years, and this is one of the most popular episodes we’ve ever created. We offer up the anchoring truths he shares amidst a pandemic that has stretched all of our sanity — and tested the mettle of love in every relationship.</p><p>Alain de Botton is the founder and chairman of The School of Life. His books include <a href="https://bookshop.org/books/religion-for-atheists-a-non-believer-s-guide-to-the-uses-of-religion/9780307476821"><i>Religion for Atheists</i> </a>and <a href="https://bookshop.org/books/how-proust-can-change-your-life/9780679779155"><i>How Proust Can Change Your Life</i></a>. He’s also published many books as part of The School of Life’s offerings, including a chapbook created from his essay <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Why-Will-Marry-Wrong-Person/dp/099557362X"><i>Why You Will Marry the Wrong Person</i></a><i>.</i></p><p>This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode “Alain de Botton — The True Hard Work of Love and Relationships." <a href="https://onbeing.org/programs/alain-de-botton-the-true-hard-work-of-love-and-relationships/#transcript">Find the transcript</a> for that show at onbeing.org.</p>