Transformation Simulation with The Agile Twins, Alicia Yanik and Nathan Chowilawu-Eshe

<p><img src= "https://ssl-static.libsyn.com/p/assets/8/9/a/b/89ab8f37a016209f16c3140a3186d450/agtwins_ws.png" alt="" width="1100" height="619" /></p> <p>This week we were lucky enough to sit down with Alicia Yanik and Nathan Chowilawu-Eshe a.k.a. The Agile Twins, hosts of the Transformation Simulation podcast!  We discuss their show's history, the idea genesis, and then we veer wildly off-course into the problems with agile, where our industry is going, and why transformations no longer "follow the script."  Enjoy!</p> <p><a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/transformation-simulation/id1517042301"> Transformation Simulation Podcast</a></p> <ul> <li>If you enjoyed this episode, please give us a review, a rating, or leave comments on iTunes, Stitcher or your podcasting platform of choice. It really helps others find us. </li> <li>Much thanks to the artist <a href= "https://krebs.bandcamp.com/">Krebs</a> from <a href= "https://machinemanrecords.com/">Machine Man Records</a> who provided us our outro music free-of-charge!  If you like what you heard, <a href= "https://www.facebook.com/machinemanrecords">check</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/machinemanrecords/">out</a> <a href="https://machinemanrecords.bandcamp.com/">these</a> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/krebsofficial/%20">links</a> to find more music you might enjoy!</li> <li>If you’d like to join the discussion and share your stories,  please jump into the fray at our <a href= "https://discord.com/invite/fC96BhD">Discord Server!</a></li> <li>We at the Agile Uprising are committed to being totally free.  However, if you’d like to contribute and help us defray hosting and production costs we do have a <a href= "https://www.patreon.com/agileuprising">Patreon</a>.  Who knows, you might even get some surprises in the mail!</li> </ul>