TODAY 8a: The power of listening. Rising interest rates. Healthy winter meals.

<p>Hoda Kotb visits Ex Machina Soundworks in Brooklyn to test their quiet room and chat one-on-one with sound and communication expert Julian Treasure about ways to focus on listening. Plus, Stephanie Ruhle has everything you need to know about interest rates, the impact on your credit cards and more. Also, Gaby Dalkin is whipping up black bean sweet potato chili.</p>