‘The Skunk at the Picnic’: Dr. Anthony Fauci on Working for Trump

<p><i>This episode contains strong language.</i></p><p>In many instances while advising the Trump administration on the pandemic, Dr. Anthony Fauci was faced with a “difficult” situation. Yet he said he had never considered quitting.</p><p>What was it like working under President Donald J. Trump? We listen in on a candid conversation between Dr. Fauci and Donald G. McNeil Jr., the Times science and health reporter.</p><p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/donald-g-mcneil-jr?smid=pc-thedaily">Donald G. McNeil Jr.</a>, a science and health reporter for The New York Times. </p><p>For an exclusive look at how the biggest stories on our show come together, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/newsletters/the-daily?module=inline">subscribe to our newsletter</a>. You can read the latest edition <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/the-daily-newsletter">here</a>.</p><p>Background reading: </p><ul><li>From denialism to death threats, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/health/fauci-trump-covid.html?smid=pc-thedaily"> described to Donald G. McNeil Jr.</a> a fraught year as an adviser to President Donald J. Trump on the pandemic.</li></ul><p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily">nytimes.com/thedaily </a></p>