The reluctant planner.

<p><strong><a href="https://evepicker.com/the-reluctant-planner/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">BE SURE TO SEE THE SHOWNOTES AND LISTEN TO THIS EPISODE HERE.</a></strong></p> <p><strong>Eve Picker:</strong> [00:00:16] Hi there, thanks so much for joining me today for the latest episode of Impact Real Estate Investing.</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Eve:</strong> [00:00:22] My guest today is Harriet Tregoning, the director of NUMO, the New Urban Mobility Alliance. As a self-described "planning geek" and "transport nerd", Harriet is a veteran, smart-growth advocate. She has been wrestling with issues of planning, mobility, disaster resilience, housing and community development issues for over two decades. In her work, she has focused on resilience in the face of disaster and challenge, including the changing climate and equity in transportation and access.</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Eve:</strong> [00:01:06] Be sure to go to evepicker.com to find out more about Harriet on the show notes page for this episode and be sure to sign up for my newsletter so you can access information about impact real estate investing and get the latest news about the exciting projects on my crowdfunding platform, Small Change.</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Eve:</strong> [00:01:27] Hello, Harriet, I'm really honored to have you on my show today.</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Harriet Tregoning:</strong> [00:01:31] It's my pleasure. I've been really looking forward to it.</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Eve:</strong> [00:01:34] Great. You know, you've said for many people, change is a really difficult topic. And you actually said I can't say I love it myself in my own neighborhood. And it sounds to me like change has been a theme in your career from planning director in DC to director of HUD's Office of Economic Resilience and now heading up the new Urban Mobility Alliance. So you wrestle constantly with what could be better and what should come next. And right now, the huge change we're all confronting is driven by this pandemic. I'm wondering what the thread is that