The ESG puppet show & taking Liberty seriously w/ Nicholas Gruen - EP199

<p>Nicholas Gruen, CEO of Lateral Economics, and host Gene Tunny discuss the topics of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) mandates and Liberty. They explore how ESG mandates can create confusion among executives and investors, and delve into Nicholas' perspective on Liberty, how to take it seriously and the best way to think about it. Nicholas tells a story from the early 1980s about how he tried to change Australia’s laws which allow Parliament to lock people up for contempt of Parliament. The conversation also touches on Nicholas' concept of citizens' juries, which is gaining support internationally, including from Martin Wolf at the Financial Times.</p><p>Nicholas Gruen, CEO of Lateral Economics, and host Gene Tunny discuss the topics of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) mandates and Liberty. They explore how ESG mandates can create confusion among executives and investors, and delve into Nicholas' perspective on Liberty, how to take it seriously and the best way to think about it. Nicholas tells a story from the early 1980s about how he tried to change Australia’s laws which allow Parliament to lock people up for contempt of Parliament. The conversation also touches on Nicholas' concept of citizens' juries, which is gaining support internationally, including from Martin Wolf at the Financial Times.</p><p>Please get in touch with any questions, comments and suggestions by emailing us at <a href="mailto:contact@economicsexplored.com">contact@economicsexplored.com</a> or sending a voice message via <a href="https://www.speakpipe.com/economicsexplored">https://www.speakpipe.com/economicsexplored</a>. </p><h3>What’s covered in EP199</h3><p>[00:01:32] Citizens' juries and economic policy. </p><p>[00:02:41] Does divestment from emissions intensive firms reduce emissions?</p><p>[00:06:47] Investing in fossil fuel companies to help them transition.   </p><p>[00:11:58] Carbon pricing. </p><p>[00:17:54] Australian consumers and carbon pricing. </p><p>[00:23:26] A different mode of governance. </p><p>[