Slouching Towards Utopia with Brad DeLong

This week's guest is J. Bradford DeLong, author of the new economic history of the 20th century, https://bookshop.org/a/82618/9780465019595 (Slouching Towards Utopia). Brad and I discuss William Morris, pre-industrial civilization, jobs versus occupations, and how much blame anarchists deserve for ruining the world. Brad and I had a bit of trouble with our setup, so the audio on his end is a bit rough.