S1, Ep 5: Getting to the Bottom of Why Lisa Barlow & Heather Gay Were So Deeply Triggered By Each Other at the RHOSLC Reunion with Piper Sample

<p>Jamie is once again joined by guest Piper Sample, this time to take a closer look at what exactly was driving the heated conflict between Lisa Barlow and Heather Gay at <em>The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City </em>reunion. Here we have a tale of two Mormons living their religion very differently - each one vying for control in her life but with remarkably contrasting styles that bump up against the other’s deepest defenses. Major themes include self-betrayal, fear of attack, the price paid for always being “good,” and the unrelenting demand for everyone to see you in the exact way you want to be seen. The episode &nbsp;also takes a detour into Jen Shah’s volatile temper and the role that her relationship to her culture plays in the season’s most explosive conflicts.</p> --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. <a href="https://anchor.fm/app">https://anchor.fm/app</a>