Perry on freight bulls vs. bears

<p>The bull vs. bear showdown is present in markets at all times. Freight is no exception.</p><p>Noel Perry, long-time freight economist who works closely with the Transportation Intermediates Association and Truckstop.com, talks about the reasons for both arguments on this week's Drilling Deep.</p><p>Also on the podcast, host John Kingston discusses the wild ride that commodity diesel prices have been on the past week. A sharp downturn followed by days of gains that recovered all of the decline. It's tough to keep on top of it.  </p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/drilling-deep-with-john-kingston/id1490133519">Follow Drilling Deep on Apple Podcasts</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5EYGxvSTrMfXmrEtDg1MAF?si=WHQ6Pve3Qx6iwR7tHxjdCA&dl_branch=1">Follow Drilling Deep on Spotify</a></p><p><a href="https://www.freightwaves.com/podcasts">More FreightWaves Podcasts</a></p>