Nice Racism

Robin DiAngelo is a lecturer on issues of racial and social justice and the bestselling author of White Fragility. In her most recent book, Nice Racism, she explores why well-meaning White progressives perceive themselves as being past racism—and why this has devastating consequences. In today’s episode with Erica Chidi, the pair share strong and soft tools for engaging in difficult, beautiful, and potentially life-changing conversations like this one. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices