Moscow's mixed messages — Ukraine's Unity Day — Think tanker Heather Conley

<p>We hear from our reporters in Moscow and Kyiv about the continued tensions over Ukraine. Our special guest is Heather Conley, the new president of the German Marshall Fund of the United States, on transatlantic ties and relations with Russia.</p><p>POLITICO's Andrew Gray in Brussels and Matthew Karnitschnig in Berlin are joined by Eva Hartog in Moscow, who explains how Vladimir Putin's domestic messaging on Ukraine is wildly different from what we hear in the West. (You can read Eva's latest reporting on the frustrations of anti-war Russians <a href="https://www.politico.eu/article/anti-war-russia-open-letter-to-president-vladimir-putin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.) And POLITICO's Hans von der Burchard calls in from Kyiv, where Unity Day, which was supposed to rally Ukrainians around the flag in the face of Russian aggression, <a href="https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-unity-day-russia-invasion-putin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">was more like any other day</a>.</p><p>Heather Conley, president of the German Marshall Fund of the United States, explains to POLITICO's David&nbsp;M.&nbsp;Herszenhorn why she thinks it's time for a new relationship between the U.S. and Europe. She also gives her take on why dialogue may not be enough for the West to reconcile with Putin, and emphasizes the significance of <a href="https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-china-oppose-nato-enlargement-vladimir-putin-xi-jinping-ukraine/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">recent joint efforts</a> by Russia and China to limit the scope of NATO — signaling a "major restructuring of the international system."</p><p>Conley also shared two reading recommendations for our listeners. The <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Partners-Command-George-Marshall-Eisenhower/dp/0143113852" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first book</a> sheds light on the important historical relationship between George Marshall and Dwight Eisenhower. The <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Putins-People-Took-Back-Ru