Is Suella after the Tory leadership?

<div>Suella Braverman is in Washington today, giving a speech to a think tank on illegal migration in which she will argue that seeking asylum and seeking better economic prospects are two different things. It's a punchy line she's taking, should Rishi be taking note? Or is this a thinly veiled bid for the Conservative leadership? <br> <br> Also on the podcast, as Ed Davey wraps up this year's Liberal Democrat conference in Bournemouth, is there optimism in Lib Dem HQ as we look towards the next election? <br> <br> Cindy Yu speaks to Patrick O'Flynn and James Heale. <br> <br> Produced by Cindy Yu and Oscar Edmondson. </div>