Ilya Sutskever (OpenAI Chief Scientist) - Building AGI, Alignment, Future Models, Spies, Microsoft, Taiwan, & Enlightenment

<p></p><p>I went over to the OpenAI offices in San Fransisco to ask the Chief Scientist and cofounder of OpenAI, <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/ilyasut">Ilya Sutskever</a>, about:</p><p>* time to AGI</p><p>* leaks and spies</p><p>* what's after generative models</p><p>* post AGI futures</p><p>* working with Microsoft and competing with Google</p><p>* difficulty of aligning superhuman AI</p><p>Watch on <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/Yf1o0TQzry8">YouTube</a>. Listen on <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ilya-sutskever-openai-chief-scientist-building-agi/id1516093381?i=1000606122602">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/5p5oJYgVN8vMvEW2nngBN7?si=1zDcArwGSjSOS-D4nk5_OA">Spotify</a>, or any other podcast platform. Read the full transcript <a target="_blank" href="https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/ilya-sutskever">here</a>. Follow <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp">me on Twitter</a> for updates on future episodes.</p><p>As always, the most helpful thing you can do is just to share the podcast - send it to friends, group chats, Twitter, Reddit, forums, and wherever else men and women of fine taste congregate.</p><p>If you have the means and have enjoyed my podcast, I would appreciate your support via a paid <a target="_blank" href="https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/subscribe">subscriptions</a> on Substack.</p><p>Timestamps</p><p>(00:00) - Time to AGI</p><p>(05:57) - What’s after generative models?</p><p>(10:57) - Data, models, and research</p><p>(15:27) - Alignment</p><p>(20:53) - Post AGI Future</p><p>(26:56) - New ideas are overrated</p><p>(36:22) - Is progress inevitable?</p><p>(41:27) - Future Breakthroughs</p><p>Transcript</p><p>Time to AGI</p><p><strong>Dwarkesh Patel</strong>  </p><p>Today I have the pleasure of interviewing Ilya Sutskever, who is the Co-founder and Chief Scientist of OpenAI. Ilya, welcome to The Lunar Society.</p><p><strong>Ilya Sutskever</strong>  </p><p>Thank you, happy to be here.</p>