HWOM with Pat Jones. The ever evolving turf industry.

Stu is joined by Pat Jones to talk turf and sobriety. Pat has worked within the media side of the turf industry for thirty years and has long been a passionate advocate for superintendents and the stresses and strains of their profession. He chats with Stu about how the industry has evolved and they discuss the possible reasons why along with the positives and negatives of things such as social media. As Pat approaches fourteen years of sobriety and Stu six they discuss the disease that is alcoholism and how's its affected both their lives.