Germany’s reality check on China: a Green perspective

<p><strong>In this episode of the <em>National Security Podcast</em>, chair of the European Parliament’s China delegation Reinhard Bütikofer joins Professor Rory Medcalf to discuss how Europe, Germany, and Australia are approaching the China challenge.</strong></p><br><p>In a fascinating conversation, Reinhard Bütikofer — a leading voice on Europe's national security stance — reflects on the China challenge. He outlines how European and German views of China are shifting, and lessons for the Indo-Pacific from the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Bütikofer also describes the vital role Green Party voices have played in the shaping of German and European strategic policy.</p><br><p><strong>Reinhard Bütikofer </strong>is one of the Co-Chairs of the European Green Party, and a Member of the European Parliament for the German Green Party (Bündnis 90/Die Grünen). He serves as the Chair of the European Parliament Delegation for Relations with China and sits on the Committee on Foreign Affairs.</p><br><p><strong>Professor Rory Medcalf</strong> is Head of ANU National Security College. His professional experience spans more than two decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, and journalism.</p><br><p><em>We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to </em><a href="mailto:NatSecPod@anu.edu.au" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>NatSecPod@anu.edu.au</em></a><em>. You can tweet us&nbsp;</em><a href="https://twitter.com/NSC_ANU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>@NSC_ANU</em></a><em>&nbsp;and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on&nbsp;</em><a href="https://play.acast.com/s/the-national-security-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Acast</em></a><em>,&nbsp;</em><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-national-security-podcast/id1395131021" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Apple Podcasts</em></a><em>,&nbsp;</em><a href="https://open.spotify.com/s