Gavin Newsom: ‘We Decided to Pull the Band-Aid Off’

<p>On this episode of “Sway,” Kara Swisher speaks to Gavin Newsom, a governor who is, by some measures, running a country. California is the world’s fifth-largest economy. And yesterday, the state joined the ranks of Britain, Denmark and Germany with an ambitious <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/climate/california-ban-gas-cars.html" target="_blank">environmental order</a> banning the sale of new gasoline-powered cars by 2035.</p><p>Governor Newsom is making big moves, even in the midst of a pandemic and a wildfire crisis. He’s leading California as the state takes on the federal government — “We’d be in the hall of fame if this was a sporting event.” But how does the governor choose his battles? What goes through his mind when he sits opposite a president who once called climate change a hoax? And how will the governor salvage California’s environment, economy and morale after a brutal year?</p><p>You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at <a href="http://nytimes.com/sway" target="_blank">nytimes.com/sway</a>, and you can find Kara on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/karaswisher" target="_blank">@karaswisher</a>.</p>