Episode 7: Sandy Agustin - The Navigator

<h2><strong><u>Transcript </u></strong></h2><p><strong>Episode 7: Sandy Agustin - The Navigator</strong></p><p><strong>Sandy Agustin:</strong> Why do you want to change? Why do you want to change? Now? What do you all hold true? What do you see as missing? It's asking the right questions, finding really generous and generative questions. And when people get stuck, sometimes we push, and we name what's hard. Sometimes we just shake it up and we have to move around. We have to play a little bit; we have to think and move physically through the space to get to something different. So, in many of the cases of the groups I've been working with lately, I find out that they've had the ruby slippers on, and the ability all the time. They just are looking at things through a lens that wasn't necessarily theirs, you know.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Bill Cleveland:</strong> From the Center for the Study of Art and Community, this is <em>Change the Story Change the World</em>, a chronicle of art and transformation. &nbsp;I’m Bill Cleveland. </p><p>Like Leni Sloan, from our first two episodes, SA: is what one might characterize as a creative polymath. A dancer, choreographer, university and community educator, a producer, a community leader, healer, an artful alchemist whose work in the US and overseas spans three decades. She's fueled her explorations and adventures with questions. “What's your story? Who are your heroes? Where do you want to go? And how can we help you get there?”. I spoke to Sandy in mid-May of 2020 in the midst of the global question, mark that I've been calling Planet COVID. Certainly, a suitable moment for a lively conversation with somebody who describes herself as a navigator. &nbsp;</p><p><strong>Part One, Learning to Drive</strong>. &nbsp;</p><p>So Sandy, this may be a daunting task for you because you're so many things to so many communities, and so many different people, but give it a shot. Try to describe what it is you do in the world.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>SA:</strong> Okay. I have had to define this mo