Episode 5: Everyone Goes to Heaven

<p>This is the second of a two-part episode on violent religious extremism. If you haven&apos;t already, listen to  <a href='https://naviculamusic.com/podcast/aku-bukan-mesin/'>Aku Bukan Mesin</a> - I Am Not a Machine, first.</p><p>In this episode, we are looking at how and why people become violent religious extremists, and explore “Everyone Goes to Heaven” - one of the songs Navicula released in response to  a turbulent time in Indonesia’s history.   </p><p>We are joined by Sidney Jones, a widely renowned expert on religious extremism and conflict in Indonesia, and Heidi Arbuckle, an expert on tolerance and on the role of music and the arts in creating an informed and tolerant society. </p><p><br/></p>