Ep154: Five next steps, with Andrew Barrett

<p>One of the worst things to do whilst you are crossing the street in downtown Ho Chi Minh City, amongst the cars and mostly motorbikes and tuk-tuks screaming past in all directions, is to stop, to stand still.<br /> Crossing the street in downtown Ho Chi Minh City. That's the analogy I used to explain what happens immediately before disruption, in my opening keynote address to the New Zealand Safeguard Conference in 2019.<br /> So the metaphorical opposite of this is to be in motion ourselves. Not stuck, stopped, stalled or stale .</p>