Ep 15: Getting Your Hands in the Roots with Penny Hay

<p>In this episode of <em>Why Change?</em>co-hosts Rachael and Jeff discuss their relationship and how colleagues can help each other dive deep on topics, to expand their perspectives. Rachael interviews Penny Hay, a creativity scholar and organizational leader in the UK. They discuss the role of creativity in social movements and how to work on systems change to reimagine education. Rachel and Jeff debrief with a passionate dialogue about the role of creativity in the world - like creative justice - and how definitions don't matter.</p> <p>In this episode you’ll learn:</p> <ol> <li>How creativity can be used in reforming education systems;</li> <li>What creative justice looks like as part of social movements; and</li> <li>Why definitions don’t matter, but systems change does.</li> </ol> <p>Please download the transcript <a href="https://creative-generation.org/podcast">here</a>.</p> <p>ABOUT PENNY HAY- An artist, educator, Reader in Creative Teaching and Learning, Senior Lecturer in Arts &nbsp;Education, School of Education; Research Fellow, <u>Centre for Cultural and Creative Industries</u>; Bath Spa &nbsp;University and Director of Research, <u>House of Imagination</u>. Signature projects include <u>School Without </u>&nbsp;<u>Walls </u>and <u>Forest of Imagination</u>. Penny is also a co-founder of Bath Cultural Education Partnership.</p> <p>Penny’s doctoral research focused on children’s learning identity as artists. She is Co-Investigator on the AHRC Global Challenges Research project ‘Rethinking waste: <u>Compound 13 Lab’ </u>in Mumbai. &nbsp;Penny is a visiting Lecturer at Plymouth College of Art and co-designed their MA in Creative &nbsp;Education.</p> <p>Penny coordinates the South West Creative Education Hub, is strand leader for Creative Pedagogy in the Policy, Pedagogy and Practice Research Centre, Associate Director of <u>TRACE </u>at Bath Spa University and a member of the Paper Nations Advisory Group. She is on the Steering Group of the APPG for Art &nbsp;Craft and Design Education and on the