Bonus: Is Kara a Chump?

<p>Kara’s conversation yesterday with <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/18/opinion/sway-kara-swisher-carmen-twillie-ambar.html" target="_blank">Oberlin College’s president, Carmen Twillie Ambar, </a>touched on the cost of a college education and why “sticker prices” are so high. She called up Ron Lieber, who writes the “Your Money” column for The Times, to discuss.</p><p>You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway, and you can find Kara on Twitter @karaswisher.</p>