Bonus Episode: Interview with John Hagel

Transformation is about moving from a caterpillar to a butterfly. The typical human response to fear is usually not transformative. Instead we tend to avoid risk, focus on the short-term, and turn everything into a zero-sum game where we find it hard to trust each other. John Hagel shares insights from his new book, The Journey Beyond Fear, on how we can escape from the hazards of fear and draw on positive emotions to truly transform our lives and businesses in dramatic ways. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices