An Appalled Republican Considers the Future of the G.O.P.
An Appalled Republican Considers the Future of the G.O.P.

An Appalled Republican Considers the Future of the G.O.P.

Julia Barretto

86 min
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<p>"I don’t think conservatism can do its job in a free society in opposition to the institutions of that society,” Yuval Levin told me. “I think it can only function in defense of them.”</p><p>Levin is the director of social, cultural and constitutional studies at the American Enterprise Institute, as well as the author of a number of great books, most recently, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Time-Build-Community-Recommitting-Institutions/dp/1541699270" target="_blank">“A Time to Build.”</a> I wanted to talk to him about a very specific question, though: What will the Republican Party become? Levin is one of its most thoughtful and sober analysts — a temperament that may, I realize, make him unsuited to interpreting its current incarnation, in which a majority of House Republicans voted to reject the results of the 2020 presidential election and one of them is, well, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/01/opinion/marjorie-taylor-greene-gop.html" target="_blank">Marjorie Taylor Greene</a>.</p><p>But Levin’s diagnosis is interesting. Histories of the modern Republican Party often place Ronald Reagan at their center. That is, in Levin’s view, a mistake. “I think Reagan is better understood as a detour from a history that is otherwise a story of a constant struggle between populism and conservatism,” he said. Donald Trump was an inheritor of a tradition that stretches long before him — Pat Buchanan’s tradition, and Strom Thurmond’s tradition. He didn’t form a new Republican Party; he allowed a long-existing part to express itself.</p><p>Behind that lie institutional changes both in the Republican Party and in the broader structure of American politics. That’s why I wanted to talk to Levin for this episode of “The Ezra Klein Show”: He, like me, thinks in terms of institutions. “The question for us in the coming years is whether we can move a little more in the direction of a politics of ‘what does government do,’ and less of a politics of ‘who rules,’” he says.</p><p>That’s exactly the right question, in my vie

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