“A really hard thing to do over cupcakes”

<p>Gunai Woman Kirli Saunders is a writer, educator, artist and so much more.</p> <p>In this special International Women’s Day episode, Kirli and TDA journalist Sunny Adcock talk about matriarchy, environment and womanhood, as well as how achieving equality is “a really hard thing to do” over IWD cupcakes.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>