371. Ben Lee on Smudge 'Manilow' (1994)

<p>Today our returning champion <strong>Ben Lee</strong> joins me on the show to talk (a little bit) about his new single 'Born for this Bullshit' and (mainly) about cult heroes <strong>Smudge</strong> and their classic 1994 album 'Manilow'. We talk about confidence, the 90s, the sound of pre Pro Tools recordings, how Smudge intersected with <strong>The Lemonheads</strong>, <strong>Tom Morgan</strong>'s slacker, superior, smart arse aesthetic and how his lyrics are the real definition of authenticity, similarities with country songwriting and more.</p>