366: Perfectionism Isn't Always A Bad Thing - With Katherine Morgan Schafler

<div> <p class="gmail-p1">Welcome back to Therapy Chat! We have talked a lot on Therapy Chat about perfectionism, and this week’s guest brings a slightly different perspective. Our guest today is a former onsite therapist at Google who proposes that it’s not always necessary to let go of being a perfectionist, because there are many positive aspects of this characteristic.<span class= "gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></p> <p class="gmail-p1">Katherine Morgan Schafler is a psychotherapist, writer and speaker, and former on-site therapist at Google. She earned degrees and trained at UC Berkeley and Columbia University, with post-graduate certification from the Association for Spirituality and Psychotherapy in New York City. Katherine’s new book, The Perfectionist’s Guide to Losing Control: A path to peace and power, came out in January 2023.<span class= "gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></p> <p class="gmail-p1">In this episode:</p> <p class="gmail-p1">- Katherine explains the 5 types of perfectionism:</p> <ol class="gmail-ol1"> <li class="gmail-li1"><strong>Classic Perfectionists</strong> </li> <li class="gmail-li1"><strong>Intense Perfectionists</strong> </li> <li class="gmail-li1"><strong>Parisian Perfectionists</strong> </li> <li class="gmail-li1"> <strong>Messy</strong> <strong>Perfectionists</strong> </li> <li class="gmail-li1"> <strong>Procrastinator</strong> <strong>Perfectionists</strong></li> </ol> She describes how each type presents with positive and negative aspects;</div> <div> </div> <div>Laura talks about the struggles to feel in control when the internal world feels chaotic as a perfectionist; Katherine shares how perfectionists can find a path to peace and power without losing a sense of control; And much more! <p class="gmail-p3"><a href= "https://www.perfectionistsguide.com/">Visit Katherine’s website and learn about her book here</a><span class= "gmail-s2">.<span class= "gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p> <p class="gmail-p3"><span class="gmail-s2">Buy Katherine Morgan Scha