#215 — A Conversation with David Miliband

<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode the podcast, Sam Harris speaks with David Miliband about his work with the International Rescue Committee. They discuss the crisis of internally displaced peoples and refugees, the problem with open borders, the vetting of refugees, the limits of nation-building and diplomacy, the realities of globalization, global risks, defending human rights, a “post-values and post-competence” America, the breakdown of trust in institutions, the prospects of a second Trump term, and other topics.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">SUBSCRIBE to listen to the rest of this episode and gain access to all full-length episodes of the podcast at</span> <a href= "http://samharris.org/subscribe"><span style= "font-weight: 400;">samharris.org/subscribe</span></a><span style= "font-weight: 400;">.</span></p>