18. Jason Lengstorf from Netlify: Failure, finding your way, and helping others adopt a new way of working

<p>Jason Lengstorf and Chris discuss failure, self-doubt, and ultimately finding your way before switching gears and getting into designs systems, communicating the things that make teams want to adopt design systems, and an approach for broadening and deepening your experience with the technologies your system may benefit from.<br/><br/>Guest:<br/><br/>Jason Lengstorf is a Principal Developer Experience Engineer at Netlify, host of <a href='https://www.learnwithjason.dev/'>Learn With Jason</a>, and writer. You can find Jason at <a href='https://www.jason.af/'>jason.af</a>, on Twitter as <a href='https://twitter.com/jlengstorf'>@jlengstorf</a>, and on <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/jlengstorf/'>LinkedIn</a>.<br/><br/>Host:<br/><br/>Chris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of <a href='https://www.knapsack.cloud/'>Knapsack</a>, host of <a href='https://twitter.com/thedspod'>@TheDSPod</a>, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as <a href='https://twitter.com/chrisstrahl'>@chrisstrahl</a> and on <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisstrahl/'>LinkedIn</a>.<br/><br/>Sponsor:<br/><br/>Knapsack — Build without rebuilding. Learn more at <a href='https://www.knapsack.cloud/'>knapsack.cloud</a> about getting Knapsack for your team.<br/><br/>Links:<br/><br/>View the <a href='https://drive.google.com/file/d/16OOgwyyEVhu1xk9ZgCY1Kk2mUAdvRWN0/view?usp=sharing'>transcript</a> for this episode.</p>