178. COP27: Why the Money Flow is Slow

<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson share their reflections on COP27. We also have music from South Africa’s</span> <a href= "https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/"><span style= "font-weight: 400;">Daily Maverick</span></a><span style= "font-weight: 400;">, featuring the brilliant vocalist, Anneli Kamfer.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tom is back from</span> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt, where he spent several days at COP27, the UN’s annual climate conference. The trio discusses whether the international commitment to contain global warming to 1.5°C一now that the target seems to be moving out of reach一is as robust as it should be. Is conference messaging, such as “[We are] resolved to pursue efforts,” as strong as it should be?</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Next, there’s good and bad news on “Loss and Damage.” This refers to the responsibility of industrialized nations for the climate crisis and the moral case for compensating poorer countries suffering disproportionately from its consequences. Hear the breakdown and where the group stands on the progress of this critical issue.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Other COP27 discussions cover balancing collective global action with internal political realities, strides in reversing deforestation, and Tom’s birthday!</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">You won’t want to miss this engaging conversation!</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Before we go to the music, hear our incredible ‘pass the mic’ segment where Zoe, our roving reporter, spent an afternoon capturing diverse voices from COP 27 delegates in the halls and corridors