171: How Good People Can Create A More Just Future with Dr. Dolly Chugh

<span style="font-weight: 400">Did you read Little House on the Prairie when you were a child? I didn't, but I know it's a common American rite of passage. My guest in this new episode, Dr. Dolly Chugh, got entirely immersed in the story with her two young daughters - so much so that they took a vacation to the places depicted in the story, and her daughters danced around in prairie dresses.</span> &nbsp; <span style="font-weight: 400">Dr. Chugh didn't realized until afterward that there was something missing from both Little House on the Prairie and from her family's exploration of the Midwest: settlers didn't arrive to find unoccupied land ready for farming; the government actively removed Native Americans from the land so it could be occupied by 'settlers.' Dr. Chugh studies issues related to race as a professor, and yet she completely missed this aspect of our country's history.</span> &nbsp; <span style="font-weight: 400">In her new book, A More Just Future, Dr. Chugh asks why so-called Good People act in ways that are counter to their beliefs because we don't have all the information we need, or we prioritize some information over others. In our conversation we discussed this research, and what we can all do to take actions that are aligned with our values - even when we're new to working on social justice issues.</span> &nbsp; <span style="font-weight: 400">Affiliate link to A more just future: Reckoning with our past and driving social change by Dr. Dolly Chugh: <a href="https://amzn.to/3D8adV7">https://amzn.to/3D8adV7</a></span> <strong>Shownotes:</strong> <span style="font-weight: 400">(09:13) 3 ways that we tend to perceive ourselves.</span> <span style="font-weight: 400">(12:02) People who are trying to avoid a loss are more likely to make less ethical choices than people trying to make a game. </span> <span style="font-weight: 400">(14:35) Kahneman and Tversky's work that says how you frame something can have meaningful consequences, even if the thing you're framing is