#162: Nels Abbey, author and co-founder of the Black Writers Guild

<p>Simon and Rachel speak with <a href="https://us13.mailchimp.com/mctx/clicks?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fnelsabbey%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Eauthor&xid=e5792842b0&uid=57080101&iid=8aedfd5900&pool=cts&v=2&c=1686567245&h=103cc1848939c0787a24726ededdeac573ebeb15947e32ac3c335221cb0c217c" target="_blank">Nels Abbey</a>, a British-Nigerian writer, media executive and satirist who co-founded the <a href="https://us13.mailchimp.com/mctx/clicks?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblackwritersguild.com%2F&xid=e5792842b0&uid=57080101&iid=8aedfd5900&pool=cts&v=2&c=1686567245&h=a6a80663973eca349b6af87556544f6b66a8e63d3448e2500e5b490691e3085c" target="_blank">Black Writers Guild</a> in 2020 in the aftermath of the killing of George Floyd. A former banker, Nels&#39;s first book, <a href="https://us13.mailchimp.com/mctx/clicks?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcanongate.co.uk%2Fbooks%2F2514-think-like-a-white-man-a-satirical-guide-to-conquering-the-world-while-black%2F&xid=e5792842b0&uid=57080101&iid=8aedfd5900&pool=cts&v=2&c=1686567245&h=d719833738039d2ddbab43cf01742a0a9ad2b29ca947d0ce2bd51098043067d2" target="_blank">&quot;Think Like a White Man&quot;</a>, was published in 2019. Penned under the alter-ego ‘Professor Boulé Whytelaw III’, the book is a satire of modern racial discourse and politics in the corporate world. Nels is now working on &quot;Hip Hop MBA - What the Empires, Moguls, and Business of Rap Can Teach the World&quot;, an examination of how rap music has come to influence and dominate the fields of art, commerce, and culture the world over. Canongate will publish &quot;Hip Hop MBA&quot; in 2024. Nels has also written for publications including the <a href="https://us13.mailchimp.com/mctx/clicks?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fprofile%2Fnelson-abbey&xid=e5792842b0&uid=57080101&iid=8aedfd5900&pool=cts&v=2&c=1686567245&h=cb82db4be983bdf5af94aeecc4dac91fd009bca6250be1172435223321b5a84c" target="_blank"><em>Guardian</em></a>, <em>Metro</em> and the <em>Voice</em>. We spoke to Nels about leaving