13: "Uncertainty can produce beauty, too"

<div>Eric Zimmer is endlessly inspired by the quest for a greater understanding of how our minds work and how to intentionally create the lives we want to live.  Eric talks with us about being homeless, living in a van, being addicted to heroin, facing long jail sentences - and about finding a way to recover from addiction and building a life worth living for himself.   He has an award-winning podcast and much wisdom to share.  We know this conversation will capture your attention and give you much to think about.</div>