019 How men can lead effectively in uncertain times with Traver Boehm

<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Today’s episode is a bit different. My guest is Traver Boehm. And also I’m his guest.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Traver and I are colleagues and (internet) friends with a deep respect for each other and each other’s work.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">When Traver asked me to appear on his podcast, I responded with ‘of course’ and then “I’d like to have you on mine too. He initially responded “Of course” to then reflect and suggest “</span><em><span style="font-weight: 400;">Why don’t we simply do a two-way conversation and both publish it instead of doing one interview then changing and going again?”</span></em></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Efficiency - I like it - so I agreed and here we are.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I suggested we explore a question that I was posed by one of my listeners, friend and former clients, the everyday legend Dana. Dana shared a curious and thoughtful question that speaks to his thoughtfulness. That was:</span></p> <p><em><span style="font-weight: 400;">“During these times of global hardship, how should we as men best show up in our local community/friend circles/workplaces to demonstrate cohesive leadership, encourage calm rational behaviour, be inclusive, protect what we cherish and instil a sense of hope to move forward in a positive way?“</span></em></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Yeah, just a small topic :-)</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">But something that Traver and I felt up to exploring, because, if two guys leading other men and creating communities of men can’t address a question like this, who will?</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">That’s a big chunk of what we explore in this episode and all of the nuance around it.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">It brings to mind a term for me which features in my coaching academy and I spoke about in the first episode of this podcast, for what I think the everyday legend is - ‘Zeus Energ