Spies, Lies, and Abacuses?

<p>Misha talks with Hoover Institution fellow Amy Zegart about her new book on the history of US intelligence, <a href='https://www.hoover.org/research/spies-lies-and-algorithms-history-and-future-american-intelligence'>Spies, Lies, and Algorithms</a>. They discuss the challenge of defending against China's pervasive spying, US counter-intelligence failures against China, and how open source intelligence is changing espionage.</p>