Giotopia

My interview with the creator. We had numerous connection problems but, we persevered. I think you'll find as I did it was well worth it. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. <a href="https://anchor.fm/app">https://anchor.fm/app</a> Support this podcast: <a href="https://anchor.fm/robert-carrigan/support" rel="payment">https://anchor.fm/robert-carrigan/support</a>