17. Amy Heymans - Pt1

<p>Featuring Amy Heymans, co-founder and CXO of MadPow. We discuss design education, the MadPow origin story, commoditization of UX, the three types of clients, and much more! Join the conversation at getshuffle.app/savingux and find the show notes at sux.live</p> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/savingux/message