Rutger Bregman: Humankind

<div>In this week’s Book Club podcast my guest is the historian Rutger Bregman. In his new book <em>Humankind</em>, Rutger argues that practically every novelist, psychologist, economist and political theorist has got it all wrong: humans are naturally caring, sharing and altruistic... and far from being the one thing that stands in the way of a Hobbesian war of all against all, 'civilisation' is actually what makes us behave badly. You’re probably thinking: 'Come off it, hippy.' Why not see if he can change your mind?<br> <br> Presented by Sam Leith.</div>